Convince me to get into hearthstone

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Posted on Jan. 2, 2016, 7:33 p.m. by Wabbbit

After playing a few games, testing out the various modes in the client and so on, I just haven't been able to get myself into Hearthstone. To me it just feels like a dumbed down Magic: the Gathering, and plus I don't feel like going through all the beginning crap to build a collection unless I know that the game ramps up into some gloriously fun experience. So my question to you is: what about this game should make me persevere and expand my collection? What are some tips for getting started? Convince me.

Dorotheus says... #1

No one can actually convince you, it's a conscious choice you just have to make.

There is very little skill involved with the game on on end, and a whoooole lot of skill involved on the other end. The +/- tradeoff is very high.
It was a lot easier to try and get into the game when Patron Warrior was around since the cost to get the parts was so little.

It's key to remember that HS is a video game that plays like a card game, and is not actually a card game due to exorbitant amounts of RNG, even in competitive ranked play.

There are still some pretty fun decks to play, it's more about finding a style I think, that could be a real issue.

Hearthstone is definitely riding the coattails of MTG, just like any other card-style or CCG is, but HS is much more like older YGO, having to set up a turn or a couple of turns before and being able to make predictions about why your opponent will play next, but is does what YGO didn't and that is having a resource that really limits the speed of the game, which is like MTG.

I am NOT trying to convince you at all, just telling you how it goes.
Anything else you'd like to know, or be explained more elaborately?

January 2, 2016 10:34 p.m.

Dorotheus says... #2

I have spent a total of $0 on the game as well, if that is something you were interested about too.

January 2, 2016 10:35 p.m.

accelerando11 says... #3

The roughest thing about Hearthstone is expanding your collection (especially if you're going F2P like I am). And it's even more difficult starting this late. That's not to say it's impossible, though.

I enjoy Hearthstone, but I don't play a lot of it at once, because that's when it starts to get boring. Recently I just do daily quests to get the gold, and every now and then there'll be a Tavern Brawl that doesn't require you to make a deck with your own collection, and that's when I play the most.

That being said, I find it as something to play every now and then, but I couldn't play it for hours on end like I could for MTG. I always talk about it as simplified MTG, because that's really what it is. It takes some of the knowledge that has been ingrained into us from MTG and uses it, but sometimes it just throws that knowledge out the window. Pure card advantage often won't just win you a game.

TL;DR Hearthstone is a simplified MTG, but it's different enough to warrant playing. Find a relatively easy deck to make and then go from there.

January 3, 2016 2:08 p.m.

OhTheNoises says... #4

I paid money into it but it's mostly because I have a disability check that I use to fuel my hobbies. It's not that hard to get into it. Even if you just buy the expansions.

I like HS because of the ability to knock out quick games. Also, the lack of ability to talk to people helps weed out the "YOU SUCK AT LIFE" insult crowd like mtgo, cockatrice, and untap. (They can Emote you but you can just squelch them.)

January 3, 2016 7:54 p.m.

Wabbbit says... #5

Well I've been playing a bit more, and have been enjoying it more as well. I figure I'll at least gradually get every hero up to ten and unlock all the basic cards before I make a decision on it. It's good enough to warrant the shot it's getting.

I'm also going F2P, so yeah building a collection will be rough. Basically I want to know if whether or not when I have a substantial amount of cards and get past the early bits, will the game get substantially better? Is there similar fun deckbuilding things you can do in it that are similar to MTG? How is the constructed area of the game, one you have a lot of cards? I have always like constructed much better then limited in MTG (so limited being the arena in HS, basically).

What are some tips for building a collection, short of spending real cash? I've heard buying packs is a bad idea.

Also I'm currently level 41 if that means anything to this discussion. Thank you all for your time!

January 3, 2016 9 p.m.

Wabbbit says... #6

Man, is it just me or would MTG be so much sweeter then it already is if they updated MTGO with some of the animations that HS has. In other words if they turned the client into something that isn't as hideous and behind the times as it is. Basically use MTG the game with the HS client and modes. Oh it would be beautiful.

January 3, 2016 9:02 p.m.

OhTheNoises says... #7

From what I hear WoTC is looking to make duels of the planeswalkers replace mtgo. They hate mtgo and they plan on updating duels for every set (they just added BFZ)

January 3, 2016 9:14 p.m.

I never understood the "dumbed down MTG" sentiment. Hearthstone plays as similarly to MTG as yu-gi-oh does. They're different games with different hand, board and health/life mechanics. Of course you're gonna compare them, but to call one a "_ version" of another makes no sense.

January 4, 2016 9:27 a.m.

DuTogira says... #9

I think the reason why so many card games are called "dumbed down mtg" games is that most other games do not allow you the ability to make plays on the opponent's turn. This is the off topic portion of this post.
As to why you should play hearthstone: despite having a rather small card pool, there are already thousands of deck archetypes out there. Few are competitive, but finding an archetype which suits your playstyle is what makes the game fun. For me, I like playing Velen otk priests, but that deck archetype just sucks right now. If you are looking to play a highly competitive game, just stick with mtg. Hearthstone has too much RNG to be a Spike's goto card game. It just gets too frustrating.

January 4, 2016 5:36 p.m.

RaefGall says... #10

My suggestion to a friend who is just starting/building a collection was to save up coins (or drop the money) and invest in the adventure paths. Unlike packs, you know what you're getting. Each wing gets you a legendary and a decent selection of cards, including a lot of staples. If you save up for the first two floors of Curse of Naxxramas and the first floor of Blackrock Mountain, that would get you: Haunted Creeper, Sludge Belcher, Loatheb, and Emperor Thaurissan, plus several other cards. Yeah, you're getting less cards for the 2100 gold, but your chances of getting 3 legendaries in those 21 potential packs is low at best.

January 12, 2016 11:34 a.m.

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